Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

04/23/2021 09:00 AM House FINANCE

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+= HB 81 OIL/GAS LEASE:DNR MODIFY NET PROFIT SHARE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 55 PEACE OFFICER/FIREFIGHTER RETIRE BENEFITS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HOUSE BILL NO. 81                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act authorizing the commissioner of natural                                                                            
     resources to modify a net profit share lease."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:06:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Secretary Note: A prior meeting on HB 81 was held on April                                                                     
22, 2021, at 9:00 A.M.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RYAN FITZPATRICK,  COMMERCIAL ANALYST,  DIVISION OF  OIL AND                                                                    
GAS, DEPARTMENT  OF NATURAL RESOURCES  (via teleconference),                                                                    
continued with the  PowerPoint (copy on file): "HB  81 - Net                                                                    
Profit  Share  and  Royalty Modifications  on  Oil  and  Gas                                                                    
Leases,"  beginning  on  slide  21. He  discussed  Slide  21                                                                    
titled Eligible Scenarios for Modification:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Current statute for royalty modification; and                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   HB81 would allow net profit share modifications in                                                                        
     these scenarios as well.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          A.  New Production:  If the  development of  a new                                                                    
          field  or  pool  would  not  be  economic  without                                                                    
          modification,  so long  as the  field  or pool  is                                                                    
          sufficiently delineated. AS 38.05.180(j)(1)(A)                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          B.  Extend  Production:  To prolong  the  economic                                                                    
          life  of a  field or  pool when  rising per-barrel                                                                    
          costs (due  to declining production  or otherwise)                                                                    
          would   make  continuing   production  no   longer                                                                    
          economic       without      modification.       AS                                                                    
          38.05.180(j)(1)(B)                                                                                                    
          C. Restore  Production: To  reestablish production                                                                    
          of shut-in oil or gas  that would otherwise not be                                                                    
          economically  feasible  without  modification.  AS                                                                    
          38.05.180(j)(1)(C)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
    New scenario under HB81 proposal                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
    Applies to net profit share modifications                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          D.   Incremental    Production:   If   incremental                                                                    
          production   from    producing   pools   requiring                                                                    
          incremental capital expenditures  is uneconomic in                                                                    
          the absence of modification.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Examples: Expansion of  existing pools, additional                                                                    
          drilling  pads,  enhanced oil  recovery  projects,                                                                    
          etc.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  expounded  that the  fourth  scenario  was                                                                    
another  end  of  field   life  modification.  The  scenario                                                                    
applied to  fields where additional capital  expenditure was                                                                    
required to  increase production and the  capital investment                                                                    
would be  uneconomic without the  modification. It  was very                                                                    
similar  to the  second scenario  but instead  of increasing                                                                    
operating costs  it was an increase  in capital expenditures                                                                    
necessary to increase  the life of the  field. He delineated                                                                    
that the  modification was only  allowed for the  net profit                                                                    
share  rates  and  the  provision was  added  in  the  House                                                                    
Resources Committee version committee substitute (CS).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  indicated  Representative  Rasmussen  and                                                                    
Representative Carpenter had joined the meeting.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:10:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson  wondered   how  many   fields  the                                                                    
legislation  would apply  to.  Mr.  Fitzpatrick referred  to                                                                    
slide  8  that listed  the  fields  that currently  had  net                                                                    
profit share  leases within the  unit. He listed  the fields                                                                    
as follows:  Collville River, Oooguruk,  Nikaitchug, Kuparuk                                                                    
River,  Duck Island,  Point Thompson,  and  Milne Point.  He                                                                    
noted that from a  straight eligibility standpoint anyone of                                                                    
the fields could  potentially  apply  for a modification. He                                                                    
expounded  that  most  of  the   leases  were  currently  in                                                                    
production already  and likely would not  see a modification                                                                    
for  new  production.  He   deduced  that  applications  for                                                                    
modification would  likely come  from fields  at the  end of                                                                    
their  production  life  for some  of  the  smaller  fields.                                                                    
Representative   Johnson    understood   Mr.   Fitzpatrick's                                                                    
response.  She  inquired  whether   there  were  fields  the                                                                    
department  was  aware  of that  would  likely  come  online                                                                    
within  3  years that  were  not  end  of life  fields.  Mr.                                                                    
Fitzpatrick  thought that  she  was referring  to Pikka  and                                                                    
Nikaitchug North  fields. He suggested  that there  might be                                                                    
an  application for  a royalty  modification but  not a  net                                                                    
profit modification.  He noted  that Nikaitchug North  was a                                                                    
federal field  and decisions  regarding royalties  were made                                                                    
on  a federal  level. He  speculated that  under the  fourth                                                                    
scenario  some  Milne Point  and  Duck  Island fields  might                                                                    
apply.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:14:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick   moved  to   slide  22   titled   Eligible                                                                    
Scenarios for  Modification.  He  deferred to  his colleague                                                                    
to describe the modeling work on the following two slides.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:15:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JHONNY MEZA,  COMMERCIAL MANAGER,  DIVISION OF OIL  AND GAS,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF   NATURAL  RESOURCES   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
indicated that  the slides showed a  graphic presentation of                                                                    
eligibility   for   the   4   modification   scenarios.   He                                                                    
highlighted  that the  beige colored  section of  the graphs                                                                    
represented  development   costs  and  the   investment  and                                                                    
operating costs  were depicted in  light gray.  In addition,                                                                    
revenue was portrayed as triangles  and operating profits in                                                                    
circles   associated  with   a  hypothetical   project.  The                                                                    
royalties  to the  state were  portrayed in  dark gray,  net                                                                    
profit share  in light  orange, and  a proxy  for production                                                                    
tax was  shown in blue. He  noted that  proxy  was  based on                                                                    
the field level versus the  production tax that was accessed                                                                    
on the taxpayer  level. In the case of  new production shown                                                                    
on  the left  graph on  the slide,  it was  assumed in  year                                                                    
zero,  the  lease holder  had  not  yet decided  whether  to                                                                    
invest and obtain  production from the oil and  gas pool. If                                                                    
it was  determined to be  uneconomic unless  modification of                                                                    
royalty or net profit share  was applied the resources would                                                                    
remain  stranded  and  potential state  revenues  would  not                                                                    
occur.   He  turned   to  the   second  scenario   [extended                                                                    
production] in  year 17,  after production  for 16  years it                                                                    
was  determined that  continued  production would  translate                                                                    
into operating losses, modification  of reduction of royalty                                                                    
or net  profit shares could  prevent the abandonment  of the                                                                    
field by  year 18  and ensure  production and  state revenue                                                                    
would continue.  However, when evaluating the  production in                                                                    
future  years   past  performance  of  the   field  did  not                                                                    
influence  the lease  holder regarding  whether to  continue                                                                    
production. He  turned to  slide 23 with  the same  title as                                                                    
slide 22 and continued with the remaining two scenarios.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Meza   continued  with  the  third   scenario  [restore                                                                    
production] in  year 21 where  production from the  pool had                                                                    
ceased.  However,  with  a  modification,  production  could                                                                    
resume  if  it was  technically  feasible.  He examined  the                                                                    
graph on  the right depicting  the fourth scenario  from the                                                                    
original  version  of the  bill.  He  explained that  HB  81                                                                    
created a fourth scenario. The lease  was in year 15 and the                                                                    
lease  holder  was considering  a  capital  investment to  a                                                                    
producing field to access  incremental production that would                                                                    
extend the  life of the  field, stem or reverse  the decline                                                                    
rate through  enhanced recovery program or  drilling outside                                                                    
the  boundaries  of a  known  reservoir.  He qualified  that                                                                    
without modification of the royalty  or net profit share the                                                                    
capital investment  might not occur. He  reiterated that the                                                                    
committee substitute  only allowed  for modification  of the                                                                    
net  profit  share  and excluded  royalty  modification.  He                                                                    
pointed out that the lease  holder would not qualify for the                                                                    
first  three   scenarios  under  the   royalty  modification                                                                    
statute. Scenario A  was disqualified  because  the pool was                                                                    
already  producing.  He  added  that scenario  B  would  not                                                                    
qualify because  the lease holder  had not yet  incurred the                                                                    
capital  expenditures  and  could  not yet  claim  that  per                                                                    
barrel costs  were increasing to  the point  of abandonment.                                                                    
He  restated that  the original  version of  HB 81  proposed                                                                    
that both royalty and net profit share could be modified.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  cited the  CS  and  asked if  the                                                                    
original bill would have allowed  for royalty adjustment for                                                                    
Prudhoe  Bay itself.  Mr. Meza  responded that  the existing                                                                    
statute  allowed for  the modification  of  royalty for  any                                                                    
lease that had a royalty  component, for every state oil and                                                                    
gas  lease.  The  applicant  needed to  make  a   clear  and                                                                    
convincing  case  that the  modification was  warranted from                                                                    
an economic standpoint  in order for the  department to make                                                                    
any modifications. Representative  Josephson understood that                                                                    
the  amendment reflected  on page  2 of  the CS,  restricted                                                                    
royalty  modification that  was allowed  under the  original                                                                    
bill. He asked whether he was correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick  responded in the affirmative.  The original                                                                    
bill  mimicked the  statutory language  that applied  to all                                                                    
the first three scenarios. He  reiterated that the CS pulled                                                                    
out the royalty modification in  scenario 4 and only allowed                                                                    
for net profit share modification.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:23:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick  advanced  to slide  24  titled   Decision-                                                                    
Making Process.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     A. HB 81 does not propose to change the modification                                                                       
         process.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     B. A producer applying for a royalty modification must                                                                     
         provide a clear and convincing showing that they                                                                       
         meet the statutory requirements.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         ? A higher standard of proof than required for most                                                                    
         other DNR applications.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         ? Applicants required to provide abundant evidence                                                                     
         to justify any request for relief.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     C. DNR may require (for .180(j)(1)(A)) or request (for                                                                     
         .180(j)(1)(B)(C)) that producers pay up to                                                                             
         $150,000 per application for consulting work to                                                                        
       support DNR's evaluation of the application.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     D. Publication of Best Interest Finding and offer                                                                          
         presentation to Legislature (AS 38.05.180(j)(9)                                                                        
         (10)).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     E. If granted, modifications are not transferrable                                                                         
         without the authorization of the Commissioner. (AS                                                                     
         38.05.180(j)(5)).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Fitzpatrick    emphasized   that    the   modification                                                                    
application process  was held to  a higher standard  and was                                                                    
unchanged  in  HB  81. The  clear  and  convincing  standard                                                                    
applied   to  both   types   of   modifications  -   royalty                                                                    
modifications  and  net   profit  sharing  modification.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that the  external  consulting  fee allowed  the                                                                    
Department of  Natural Resources (DNR) to  obtain consulting                                                                    
services for scenarios of understaffing  due to vacancies or                                                                    
lacking the  necessary expertise  to review  an application.                                                                    
The external  consultant participated in the  review process                                                                    
for both types  of modifications. He furthered  that after a                                                                    
modification  review,  the   department  published  a   best                                                                    
interest  finding   that  contained  the  justification  and                                                                    
decision and was subject to  a public comment period. During                                                                    
the comment period,  DNR was required to  testify before the                                                                    
legislature  to   discuss  the  decision.   The  requirement                                                                    
remained unchanged  in statute.  Finally, if  a modification                                                                    
was granted under current statute,  the modification was not                                                                    
transferable   without  prior   written   approval  by   the                                                                    
commissioner of DNR, which applied to both modifications.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:28:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick indicated  that  the final  portion of  the                                                                    
presentation   contained  tables   that  were   side-by-side                                                                    
comparisons  of the  original version  of HB  81 versus  the                                                                    
committee  substitute beginning  on slide  26 titled   HB 81                                                                    
vs. CS for HB 81.  He  offered that the original bill and CS                                                                    
both  allowed for  modification  of net  profit share  under                                                                    
existing eligibility scenarios  for royalty modification and                                                                    
clarified that  the condition of prior  production refers to                                                                    
commercial production. He noted that  the language in the CS                                                                    
that  created a  new eligibility  scenario for  modification                                                                    
when  additional   capital  expenditures  were   needed  was                                                                    
refined  by  Legislative  Legal Services.  He  reminded  the                                                                    
committee that  the CS restricted  applicability of  the new                                                                    
scenario only to net profit share modification.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:30:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Fitzpatrick briefly  described slide  27. He  commented                                                                    
that language included in the  CS regarding the modification                                                                    
of the net profit share provided  a floor of 10 percent, the                                                                    
modification could not  be less than 10  percent. There were                                                                    
additional requirements  for the new scenario.  He explained                                                                    
that the  capital expenditure  had to be  made by  the lease                                                                    
holder or the modification  would lapse and the commissioner                                                                    
of  DNR had  to approve  the additional  capital investments                                                                    
based on the need to  maximize economic production. He noted                                                                    
that the conditions were typical  for a DNR modification. He                                                                    
referenced the  most recent modification  from 2014  for the                                                                    
Oooguruk formation. He delineated  that one condition lapsed                                                                    
the  modification   if  the  operator   did  not   make  the                                                                    
investment by a certain time.  In the case, the modification                                                                    
lapsed and  voided because the  investment was not  made. He                                                                    
believed that the  conditions  encapsulated best practices.                                                                     
He  added  that  Legislative   Legal  also  suggested  other                                                                    
conforming language changes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:32:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked for  the justification  for removing                                                                    
the  royalty modification.  Mr.  Fitzpatrick responded  that                                                                    
there   were   some   concerns   about   extending   royalty                                                                    
modifications  to larger  fields. He  communicated that  the                                                                    
department  viewed  the   royalty  modification  useful  but                                                                    
understood it was a matter of legislative policy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:33:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson suggested  that because the changes                                                                    
were   historically   infrequent,   he  wondered   why   the                                                                    
legislature would  not be given  the opportunity  to approve                                                                    
modifications. He noted that a  modification was granted for                                                                    
the  North Star  unit via  legislation in  1996. He  relayed                                                                    
that the  legislation moved quickly through  the legislature                                                                    
and doubted delay  would be a problem. He  wondered what the                                                                    
department's position  might be. Mr. Fitzpatrick  was unable                                                                    
to speak to the  departments  position. He acknowledged that                                                                    
the legislature had approved modifications  in the past. The                                                                    
current  modification statute  allowing the  commissioner to                                                                    
approve  modifications  was in  place  for  the previous  26                                                                    
years. He would follow  up on the representative's question.                                                                    
Representative Josephson would appreciate the information.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen did  not  believe the  legislature                                                                    
would be able  to move quickly on any  legislation under the                                                                    
current political environment.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fitzpatrick thanked the committee for hearing the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick set the bill aside.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB  81  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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